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ama

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Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« on: August 16, 2007, 04:41:12 PM »

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From Times Online
August 15, 2007

Wikipedia-weary City turns to 'PR 2.0'

Blue-chip companies, billionaires and pop stars turn to software solution
to protect their reputations online
Rhys Blakely

The City is decidedly weary of Wikipedia and the power the online
encyclopaedia wields. "It just means it's open season on everybody,
doesn't it?" a senior financial PR man tells The Times. "Yes, we follow it
in the mix, but we're very doubtful about the site's editorial checks. The
thing is, however, the web means any story can go global in a nanosecond."

In short, he suggests, the cacophony of online content spewed out by
blogs, chatrooms and vast user-generated reference works means it has
never been harder for companies to manage one of their most important
assets - their reputations. In an effort to combat that trend, a new
industry is springing up to allow companies and individuals to track how
they are perceived on the web - call it PR 2.0.
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mehr:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article2266255.ece


Es geht nicht bloß um den Ruf irgendwelcher Firmen. Das ist harmlos. Nein, es geht um großflächige Fälschungen in jeder beliebigen Richtung.

Die London Times hat viele Artikel zum Thema:

Artikel der London Times zum Thema


Diskussion zum Thema im Forum von Ökotest:

neu: http://forum.oekotest.de/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=alg_wiki

neu: http://forum.oekotest.de/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1196962758/0#0

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Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 01:15:59 AM »

Die Fälscher bei der Arbeit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ryke_Geerd_Hamer&action=history

Wikipedia ist eine Obszönität!
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ama

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Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 02:01:52 PM »

Hier mal wieder ein krasser Fall und ein volles Geständnis:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Gernot-R%C3%B6hr-Biwak

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Diskussion:Gernot-Röhr-Biwak
aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie
Wechseln zu: Navigation, Suche
Habe mir erlaubt, ein paar Kleinigkeiten auszubessern:
Durchkopplung (mehrere Stellen)
Historie -> Geschichte (wird eher in den Artikeln bevorzugt)
-link Biwak (da hier nicht zweckdienlich)
DEFAULTSORT, um Einordnung in Kategorie richtig zu machen, Hilfe:Kategorien
doppelte Leerzeile zwischen Box und Text auf eine reduziert, um obenbündiges Layout zu erreichen.
Beim Verschieben solltest du darauf achten, dass das Ziel Gernot-Röhr-Biwak lautet (2x mit Bindestrich!). lg --Herzi Pinki 00:48, 10.
Okt. 2007 (CEST)

[Bearbeiten] URV-Verdacht
Warum habt Ihr denn die Quellenangabe rückgänig gemacht? Ihr habt den
Text von dort wortwörtlich übernommen!
Details hier:
http://www.kreiter.info/familie/docs/webmasters/wikipedia/wikipedia.htm

Ich habe den Link entfernt, weil eine private Seite als Beleg gemäß
WP:Belege nicht so verlässlich ist. Aber: Soweit ich das beurteilen kann,
ist das tatsächlich eine Urheberrechtsverletzung, ob mit oder ohne
Quellenangabe, da ist Deine Beschwerde völlig berechtigt. Ich habe die
beiden Sätze mal dementsprechend markiert. Das ließe sich evtl durch
Umformulierung noch beheben, da "nur" zwei Sätze kopiert wurden,
allerdings scheinen von der Seite ja ne Menge Text und Bilder geklaut
worden zu sein. In dem Fall - ich habe keinen Überblick, weil ich hier in
dem Thema nicht involviert bin -, sollte das mal an zentraler Stelle
angesprochen werden. --Sommerkom 13:56, 25. Apr. 2008 (CEST)




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Diese Seite wurde zuletzt am 25. April 2008 um 13:56 Uhr geändert.
Ihr Text steht unter der GNU-Lizenz für freie Dokumentation.
Wikipedia® ist eine eingetragene Marke der Wikimedia Foundation Inc.
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Analysieren wir mal.

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Ich habe den Link entfernt,
weil eine private Seite als Beleg gemäß
WP:Belege nicht so verlässlich ist
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Also: Eine private Site (Das Wort heißt SITE, aber bei Wikipedia sind bekanntlich Analphabeten jeder Couleur zuhaus...) ist als Quelle "nicht so zuverlässig". DESWEGEN wird der LINK zu dieser privaten Site gelöscht.

ABER in dem Geständnis gibt es diese Fortsetzung:

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Das ließe sich evtl durch Umformulierung noch beheben,
da "nur" zwei Sätze kopiert wurden, ...
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Also: Wenn das umformuliert ist, kann der Inhalt übernommen werden.

Nun wissen wir aber (siehe oben!), daß

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eine private Seite als Beleg gemäß
WP:Belege nicht so verlässlich ist
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Klaut man deren Inhalt und formuliert ihn um, ist dieser Makel der privaten Herkunft plötzlich verschwunden.

Taschendiebe haben ihre eigene Moral...

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Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 08:01:15 PM »

Diese Diktion dieses Artikels hat es in sich. Deswegen wird er als Beweisstück als Ganzes archiviert.

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12.02.2009 13:58

Wikipedia-Fälscher kritisiert Recherchemethoden der Medien
Guttenberg-Eklat löst Diskussion um Umgang mit Online-Quellen aus

Die Aufregung um den falschen zusätzlichen Vornamen des neuen Bundeswirtschaftsministers Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg hat in Deutschland eine breite Diskussion über die Recherchequalität der Journalisten in Bezug auf Internet-Quellen ausgelöst. Ein Fälscher, der sich mittlerweile bereits zu seiner Tat bekannt hat, hatte in der Online-Enzyklopädie Wikipedia den Guttenberg-Eintrag absichtlich abgeändert. Von etablierten deutschen Medien wie "Spiegel Online", dem "Handelsblatt", der "Süddeutschen" oder der "Bild"-Zeitung wurden die falschen Angaben daraufhin unkontrolliert übernommen. "Zugegeben, der Scherz war anfangs nicht gerade originell. Innerhalb weniger Stunden bekam er aber eine höchst interessante Eigendynamik, die mich an den Recherchemethoden vieler Journalisten erheblich zweifeln ließ", schreibt der Übeltäter in einem aktuellen Blog-Eintrag.

Tipps

"Die aktuellen Ereignisse zeigen einmal mehr, dass Wikipedia nur sehr eingeschränkt als journalistische Recherche-Quelle taugt", stellt Hendrik Zörner, Pressesprecher des Deutschen Journalistenverbandes (DJV), im pressetext-Interview fest. Da die Online-Enzyklopädie kein professionelles journalistisches Produkt sei und keine für die dortigen Inhalte verantwortliche Redaktion aufweise, dürfe sich der Journalist keinesfalls ausschließlich auf diese eine Quelle verlassen. "Journalisten, die Wikipedia bei ihren Recherchen zu Rate ziehen, sollten zwei Dinge beachten: Erstens müssen sie sich vergewissern, woher die dort gefundenen Informationen ursprünglich stammen und zweitens sollten sie zu ihrer eigenen Rückversicherung noch mindestens eine weitere Quelle hinzuziehen", fasst Zörner zusammen. Dies gelte aber nicht nur für das Internet-Nachschlagewerk, sondern prinzipiell für jede Art von Online-Quelle.

"Da sind sicherlich grobe Fehler passiert"

Dass auch so renommierte Medien wie der "Spiegel", der eigentlich für seine gute Recherchequalität bekannt ist, auf die Guttenberg-Finte hereingefallen sind, ist für den DJV-Sprecher eine Überraschung. "Da sind sicherlich grobe Fehler passiert", ist Zörner überzeugt. Dies gesteht das Nachrichtenmagazin inzwischen auch öffentlich ein und verspricht in Zukunft sorgfältiger zu recherchieren. "Wikipedia bleibt für uns eine wichtige Quelle, darf aber für journalistische Arbeit nie die einzige Quelle sein", heißt es von Spiegel Online. Diese Einsicht ist aber keineswegs neu. "Eine Enzyklopädie sollte lediglich die Hintergrundinformationen liefern und als Basis für die weitere Recherche dienen", verkündete Wikipedia-Mitgründer Jimmy Wales vor einiger Zeit im Rahmen eines Kongresses in Wien.

Zeit

"Ausschlaggebend für solche Fehler ist wohl in vielen Fällen das Zeitargument, das im Journalismus eine wesentliche Rolle spielt", meint Zörner. In dieser Hinsicht habe Wikipedia entscheidende Vorteile zu bieten. "Die Seite ist eine schnelle und einfache Art, wie man als Journalist in relativ kurzer Zeit an möglichst viele Informationen zu einem bestimmten Thema herankommen kann", stellt der DJV-Sprecher fest. Auch wenn sich die Online-Enzyklopädie in puncto Qualität und Glaubwürdigkeit mittlerweile deutlich verbessert habe, seien die dort zu findenden Inhalte immer noch mit einer gewissen Vorsicht zu genießen. "Journalisten müssen sich stets Zeit für eine gründliche Recherche nehmen. Es gibt zwar ein klar erkennbares Bemühen, die Wikipedia-Einträge zu professionalisieren, doch ein Unsicherheitsfaktor bleibt vorhanden", so Zörner abschließend. (pte)


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Wir werden gerne darauf zurückkommen.

Versprochen.

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Re: Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2011, 12:09:40 PM »

Dürfen wir jetzt darauf zuückkommen?
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Die Sache mit dem falschen Vornamen ist zweieinhalb Jahr her. Was haben die Leute daraus gelernt? Antwort: nichts!

Bevor ich zur eigentlichen Antwort aushole, zitiere ich jemand Anderen. Der ist nicht ganz unbekannt und heißt Ben Goldacre.
 
 
http://content.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/stz/page/2423008_0_7154_--quot-idioten-spielen-sich-als-experten-auf-quot-.html

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Stuttgarter Zeitung

"Idioten spielen sich als Experten auf"

Artikel aus der STUTTGARTER ZEITUNG vom 17.03.2010

Der britische Mediziner Ben Goldacre kritisiert die wissenschaftliche Berichterstattung in den Medien. Studien werden oft falsch zitiert oder verfälscht dargestellt. Darüber schreibt der mittlerweile recht bekannte Kritiker regelmäßig in einer Kolumne im "Guardian".

Ben Goldacre ist Arzt, unterrichtet Studenten am King"s College in London und schreibt die Kolumne "Bad Science" im "Guardian" mit immensem Rechercheaufwand, um die Öffentlichkeit über schlechte Forschung aufzuklären.

Herr Goldacre, über was haben Sie sich so geärgert, dass Sie mit der Kolumne angefangen haben?

In Großbritannien gab es eine mächtige Kampagne gegen die kombinierte Mumps-Masern-Röteln-Impfung, die viele ethische Grenzen überschritten hat. Ein Arzt hatte in einer völlig unzureichenden Studie mit zwölf Kindern eine Verbindung zwischen der Impfung und Autismus hergestellt. Daraufhin machten die Medien neun Jahre Panik, obwohl es wertvolle Untersuchungen mit Tausenden Probanden gab, die diesen Verdacht widerlegten. Und dann gibt es noch den täglichen Mist: Viren, die als Bakterien bezeichnet werden, Ahnungslosigkeit über klinische Studien, erfundene Statistiken . . . Ich wurde dazu geprügelt, die Kolumne zu schreiben.

Was ist Ihr Ziel?

Ich muss zugeben: Es macht mir zunächst Spaß, zu zeigen, dass Leute, die sich wahnsinnig groß als Experten aufspielen, Idioten sind. Aber ich versuche auch, meinen Lesern etwas wissenschaftliches Denken für den Alltag mitzugeben. Ich nehme Behauptungen, die jemand im Fernsehen, in der Zeitung oder in der Werbung gemacht hat und ich untersuche, was dran ist. In diesem Prozess zeige ich der Öffentlichkeit, wie Wissenschaft funktioniert. Zu kritisieren, ist das Herz der Wissenschaft.
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Der Rest des Interviews ist lesenswert und wichtig, beschäftigt sich aber mit einem anderen Thema. Mir geht es um die Überschrift:

"Idioten spielen sich als Experten auf"

Das ist es. Darum geht es. Darum und um nichts anderes.

Werfen wir einen Blick in ein heiß umkämpftes Thema: Hamer und seine Idioten. Dazu steht auch etwas in der Wikipedia. Aber was!? Hier als erstes die Chronologie der Änderungen:

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(cur | prev)  08:50, 3 September 2008 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (11,705 bytes) (put the "update" tag on top - like user:Lauranimist tried it...) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  00:01, 3 September 2008 Lauranimist (talk | contribs) (11,407 bytes) (The original author is very biased against German New Medicine and is "unverifiably" associating it with religious sects that are completely unconnected.) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  02:51, 26 February 2008 Davidruben (talk | contribs) (11,018 bytes) (try to restore some of the copyediting (standard of English, WP:MOSTM, refs after puctuation & section ordering lost in previous rv to earlier less wheasly "NPOV version",) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  23:19, 25 February 2008 Davidruben (talk | contribs) (14,694 bytes) (→Anecdotes: needs sourcing from WP:Reliable sources of 3rd parties. Hamers own claims are not RS in this respect) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  03:20, 25 February 2008 Davidruben (talk | contribs) (12,393 bytes) (no reg marks as per WP:MOSTM, copyediting of English. Need verify claims of proof of method working, and the views why conventional medical criticism is dismissed. Adjust section order) (undo)
(cur | prev)  03:05, 25 February 2008 Davidruben (talk | contribs) (12,282 bytes) (Generally degrees & titles not used in articles. Also if been barred, then ? allowed to call himself a doctor (eg see Harold Shipman for how a UK struck-off doctor is referred to in an article)) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  11:12, 4 January 2008 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (9,892 bytes) (→GNM: GNM article was a blatant copyright violation...) (undo)
(cur | prev)  20:26, 22 December 2007 Redecke (talk | contribs) (9,924 bytes) (→Dirk Hamer's death: error: his wife was cured by Hamer (..''my first patient..'') and died later in 1985) (undo)
(cur | prev)  00:38, 9 December 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (9,954 bytes) (link to new GNM article (although that article should be merely a redirect); a picture is certainly not necessary and in this case not available...) (undo)
(cur | prev)  05:47, 8 December 2007 EkcedeR (talk | contribs) (9,838 bytes) (It is a biography, it must have a picture from the biography one.) (undo)
(cur | prev)  08:30, 28 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (9,818 bytes) (→GNM: shortened (less Hamer phraseology; shouldnt be longer than critics paragraph) & structure (theory, Hamer vs, conventional, conventional vs. Hamer)) (undo)
(cur | prev)  07:21, 28 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (10,032 bytes) (→Biography: -img (suspected copyright violation & not so important for the article)) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  17:33, 7 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (10,038 bytes) (→GNM: that conclusion is bogus, although I found it somewhere... they wrote pseudoscience or so... hamer accuses conventional medicine of being a not falsifiable bunch of 5000 hypothesises) (undo)
(cur | prev)  17:14, 7 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (10,045 bytes) (→Antisemitism: he accuses just a certain jewish movement (if i understand that correctly, many or even most jews r no zionists...)... *dont*hurt*me* :-)) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  16:15, 7 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (12,150 bytes) (→Notable case: IIRC they were first compliant to MDs until they were left alone for the weekend and searched an alternative... since they they look like convinced supporters of hamer) (undo)
(cur | prev)  16:08, 7 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (12,021 bytes) (→GNM: format & -undue detail (date) & wording) (undo)
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(cur | prev)  15:44, 7 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (12,359 bytes) (→Dirk Hamer's death: if i remember correctly, he says, that his son showed up in his dreams and gave him hints about GNM _after_ he was cured conventionally) (undo)
(cur | prev)  15:38, 7 November 2007 Homer Landskirty (talk | contribs) (12,780 bytes) (trying to shorten the article (e.g.: patent details r not relevant (because MDs dont like him and those patented things...))) (undo)
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Re: Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 09:50:47 PM »

2004 wurde der Artikel über Hamer begonnen. Das ist übrigens die englische Wikipedia und nicht die deutsche. Trotzdem sind Deutsche am Werk, und fälschen, was das Zeug hält. Allen voran Hamer-Anhänger. Das sind die Oberfälscher.

Hier ein Schnappschuß nach einer Fälschungsaktion durch einen Hamer-Anhänger:

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-   '''Ryke Geerd Hamer''' (born May 17, [[1935]]) is a barred German physician who is the originator of the highly controversial "[[Germanic New Medicine]]", also formerly known as "German New Medicine" and "New Medicine" that criticizes mainstream medicine, and promises a 98% chance of healing for cancer. The approach has been described as "dangerous, especially as it lulls the patients into a false sense of security so that they are deprived of other effective treatments."<ref name="SCAC">{{cite web |author=Swiss Study Group for Complementary and Alternative Methods in Cancer, SCAC |title=Hamer's «New Medicine» |url=http://www.swisscancer.ch/dt_fr/content/orange/pdf/skak/01_02_hamer_e.pdf |format=PDF |date=2001 |publisher=Swiss Cancer League |accessdate-2008-02-26}}</ref>    +   '''Ryke Geerd Hamer''' (born May 17, [[1935]]) is a barred German physician who is the originator of the highly controversial "[[Germanic New Medicine]]", also formerly known as "German New Medicine" and "New Medicine" that criticizes mainstream medicine, and promises a 98% chance of healing for cancer. The approach has been described as "dangerous, especially as it lulls the patients into a false sense of security so that they are deprived of other effective treatments, "<ref name="SCAC">{{cite web |author=Swiss Study Group for Complementary and Alternative Methods in Cancer, SCAC |title=Hamer's «New Medicine» |url=http://www.swisscancer.ch/dt_fr/content/orange/pdf/skak/01_02_hamer_e.pdf |format=PDF |date=2001 |publisher=Swiss Cancer League |accessdate-2008-02-26}}</ref> while Hamer and other GNM supporters state exactle the opposite.
         
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Ryke Geerd Hamer (born May 17, 1935) is a barred German physician who is the originator of the highly controversial "Germanic New Medicine", also formerly known as "German New Medicine" and "New Medicine" that criticizes mainstream medicine, and promises a 98% chance of healing for cancer. The approach has been described as "dangerous, especially as it lulls the patients into a false sense of security so that they are deprived of other effective treatments, "[1] while Hamer and other GNM supporters state exactle the opposite.Contents [hide]
1 Biography
2 Dirk Hamer's death
3 GNM
4 Notable case
5 Antisemitism claims
6 Critics
7 Verifications
8 Anecdotes
9 Works by Ryke Geerd Hamer
10 See also
11 References
12 External links

Biography

Ryke Geerd Hamer was born in Düsseldorf-Mettmann (Germany) in 1935. He received his high school diploma at age 18 and started medical and theological studies in Tübingen, where he met Sigrid Oldenburg, a medical student who later became his wife. At age 20, he passed the preliminary examination in medicine, married a year later, and completed his theological examinations at 22. A daughter was born to the young family and a son, Dirk. In April 1962 Hamer passed his medical state examination in Marburg and he was granted a professional license as a doctor of medicine in 1963. According to Hamer himself, there followed a number of years at the University Clinics of Tübingen and Heidelberg. In 1972, Hamer completed his specialization in internal medicine. He also worked in several practices with his wife. He patented several inventions.

In 1978 the loss of his son Dirk, led Hamer to develop his "Germanic New Medicine" (GNM) which led to legal complications. Hamer's license to practice medicine was revoked in 1986 by a court judgment in Germany and this reconfirmed in 2003. As he continued to treat patients, Hamer was investigated several times on allegations of malpractice and the death of patients.[2] He was jailled for 12 months in Germany from 1997 to 1998, and served a prison term from September 2004 to February 2006 in Fleury Merogis, France on counts of fraud and illegal practicing. He subsequently lived in exile in Spain until March 2007, when he allegedly left Spain.
Dirk Hamer's death

The violent death of his son, Dirk Hamer (born 1959), was a key event in the development of the theories of Hamer. On August 8, 1978 his son was shot while he slept on a yacht off Cavallo by Vittorio Emanuele. After a protracted medical course Dirk Hamer died on December 7, 1978. On August 18, 1991 the Paris Assize Court did not find Vittorio Emanuele guilty of homicide; with a highly controversial decision, he was only convicted of the illegal possession of a rifle.[3]

When incarcerated in June 2006 on charges of corruption, Vittorio Emanuele was recorded admitting that in reference to the death of Dirk Hamer that "I was in the wrong, [...] but I must say I fooled them [the French judges]",[4]

Two months after his son's death, Hamer detected in himself a testicular cancer, which could be cured conventionally.
GNM

Some time after the death of his son Dirk Hamer began to believe, that any disease, most notably cancer, is not dangerous in itself, but merely a biological symptom of a psychological conflict situation. Hamer claims that the effect on the brain can be demonstrated by brain CT scans where a specific focal alteration is apparent and that the conflict-related organ responds with “cancer”. According to Hamer this conflict needs to be resolved in order for the disease to be cured. Traditional treatments are not considered as having any primary value but as to be dangerous.

Hamer also argues that conventional medical research is not falsifiable and often in the interest of pharmaceutical companies, preventing accurate investigation in the causes and treatment of diseases, and ignores the role of the mind in the genesis of the disease. The Trnava University and others have confirmed Hamer's theories. Hamer insists that his system is verifiable and complains that the medical establishment is failing to respond. Hamer agrees, that in case of a severe conflict or wrongful application of his method GNM will not rescue the patient.[5][6]

These anomalies in brain CT scans have been identified by radiologists to be ring artifacts, while Hamer has certified with Siemens, under which circumstances the rings are artifacts and when not.[7] Applying Hamer's theories is punishable in some countries as malpractice in coincidence with fraud, because mainstream medicine does not acknowledge a single successful treatment, while it's been proven, that over 90% of Dr. Hamers cancer patients from his clinic in Burgau, Austria, were still alive 8 years later. [8] Furthermore conventional medicine officials complain, that Hamer's theorems are not falsifiable, since they are often tautologies, but no case could yet be found, where Hamer's theorems did not apply.
Notable case

Hamer became known mainly through his association with the Olivia Pilhar cancer case in 1995. Olivia, then aged six, suffered from Wilms' tumor. When Olivia and her parents were left alone on the oncology ward, which was lacking psychological support for relatives and patients, the parents withheld conventional medical therapy from their child Olivia and found Hamer to be a trustworthy alternative. The Austrian authorities finally removed their rights of care and control, and the parents fled from Austria to Spain with the child, because children are being forced by law to get into chemo therapy. There, Hamer "treated" the child using his method. The family found the original conflict, and solved the problem by rearranging their life.

After negotiations including the intervention of the Austrian president, who was also the chairman of a part of the chemo therapy industry, the parents were persuaded to return with the condition of no repression. By then, Olivia's tumor weighed several kilograms. Against the parents' wishes, the child was given emergency medical treatment by court order. Her parents received an eight-month suspended jail sentence in Austria.[citation needed]

Her parents are convinced to this day that Olivia does not owe her survival to the conventional medical treatment given.[9]
Antisemitism claims

The conflict between supporters and opponents of Hamer's pretensions, at the base of which what "biological laws" lays, has become more acrimonious over the years, with Hamer being accused of using anti-semitic terminology and claiming that a genocidal Zionistic conspiracy wants him silenced. According to Hamer, Jews cure themselves with the German New Medicine and prevent non-Jews from using it. He says the doctors of official medicine are guilty of the "most hideous crime in the whole history of mankind". However Hamer clearly explains that he is neither an antisemite nor a racist nor a religious fanatist but a subject to denouncing. Hamer explains that "he wants to help anyone, no matter who it is" and "crime is a crime no matter, if it is done by Chineses, Esquimaus, or in this case, Jews. And it's notable to say, that there have never been any comments from Hamer against the Semitic race nor against Jews in general.[10]
Critics

Attacks on the GNM are based on rhetoric, ad hominem attacks and leaving out big parts of the story.[11] It's being claimed, that conventional medicine have a front group of propagandists (so-called quackbusters), who try to spread disinformation about alternative medicine.

Dr. Hamer is often accused of killing people, while it's being ignored how the person died and what the actual reason was. Most commonly people couldn't solve their conflicts and therefor died "biologically correct". And very often the individuals have been treated with chemo therapy while also trying to solve their conflicts. Dr. Hamer keeps repeating how dangerous chemo therapy is, while his opponents try to blame these deads on him, even though they died while getting chemo therapy, and cancer dead cases without chemo are very rare.

Critical scientists claim, that the GNM is not falsiable without giving detailed information. Many doctors and even universities have tested and certificated it to be correct, and didn't seem to have a problem.[12]

Often it's being tried to avoid the debate, by claiming that the GNM is wrong, because it contradicts huge parts of common medicine, without questioning the hypotheses of common medicine.
Verifications

Dr. Hamer says there are over 50 documents that support GNM, a selection of which are:
Verification by the University of Trnava (German)
Verification by K.J. Probst (German)
Verification by Dr. Wilhelm Limberger (German)
Protocol from March 4th 1989 (German)
A list of verifications (German)

The Swiss Cancer League of Swiss Society for Oncology, Swiss Society for Medical Oncology and Swiss Institute for Applied Cancer Research observe that no case of a cancer cure has been published in medical literature nor any studies in specialised journals. Reports in his books "lack the additional data that are essential for medical assessment" and investigation presentations at medical conferences "are scientifically unconvincing".[1]

Supporters of Hamer claim his ideas are being ignored by the mainstream medicine and therefore not given a chance at being published.[citation needed]
Anecdotes

There are numerous unverified anecdotes about doctors all over the world secretly knowing Hamers work and using it only for "intelligent" patients and for themselves.

For example the case of Gisela Hompesch, who is going to release a book about the subject, who was having bone cancer, and the doctor suggested to her to get into the regular medical machinery. Instead she got Hamer's "golden" Book "Vermächtnis einer Neuen Medizin" in her hands and used the knowledge to heal herself. Later on she took her book and went to the doctor again and asked, why he didn't tell her about Hamer's discovery. He pulled his own Hamer book out from under the table and said "The New Medicine is only for intelligent patients". And since then, there is a bumber sticker with this quote in Germany.

There are also many reported cases of doctors and medical professors "dropping their mask", when asked about Hamer, admiting to know, that Hamer is right, but withholding it from the patients, when they don't ask about it themselves.
Works by Ryke Geerd Hamer
Hamer, Dr Ryke Geerd Summary of the New Medicine (2000, Amici di Dirk) ISBN 84-930091-9-9
Hamer, Dr Ryke Geerd Einer gegen alle ( 2005, Amici di Dirk) ISBN 84-96127-15-X
Hamer, Dr.Ryke Geerd 'Krebs und alle sog. Krankheiten' (2004, Amici di Dirk) ISBN 84-96127-12-5
Hamer, Dr.Ryke Geerd 'Vermächtnis einer Neuen Medizin' (1998, Amici di Dirk) ISBN 978-3926755001
See also
Meta-Medicine, another group that supports and applies Hamer's theories, including his so called "biological laws". [1]. And even create new organizations with the support of famous actors [2]. Hamer himself describes the meta-medicine "meta-bandits".[13]
Christian Science, a religion originating in the United States which believes disease is a sign of a spiritual problem, and has been similarly accused of causing deaths by withholding traditional medical treatment.
Scientology, a religious movement established in 1954, that recommends thorough psychotherapeutic measures that shall locate psychological traumas in order to avoid cataclysmic damage
References
^ a b Swiss Study Group for Complementary and Alternative Methods in Cancer, SCAC (2001). "Hamer's «New Medicine»" (PDF). Swiss Cancer League.
^ case file number 34 Js 85/86 - 34 Js 178/95 - 34 Js 221/96 Public Prosecution Service Cologne
^ Summary of trial proceedings
^ Vittorio Emanuele, cimici in cella "Ho fregato i giudici francesi"
^ Helmut Pilhar website and seminars (german)
^ English Version of GNM
^ Verification by Siemens about when ring artifacts are there and when not (german)
^ 90% (6000) cancer patients healed in Burgau clinic
^ Pilhar website
^ Hamer's Official biography, with his letters on an alleged Jewish conspiracy (italian)
^ Counterstatement about the death of Michaela (German)
^ Verifications by Universities, Doctors and others (German)
^ Prof. W.Klosterhalfen university of Düsseldorf/Germany
External links
Walter Last about the New Medicine
Healing Cancer Naturally
What is the iron law of cancer?
Interview with Dr. Hamer
The AGPF about Hamer (german)
'Wehrhafte Medizin!' (german)
Learning about the German New Medicine
GNM Critics
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 09:57:30 PM »

Einige Zeit vorher hatte die Seite noch ganz anders ausgesehen. Hier ein Schnappschuß vom 6.11.2007:


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Ryke Geerd Hamer (born May 17, 1935) is a barred German physician who is the originator of the "Germanic New Medicine" (Registered trade mark), also formerly known as "German New Medicine" and "New Medicine", an highly controversial approach to illness that, in turn, criticizes mainstream medicine.Contents [hide]
1 Biography
2 Dirk Hamer's death
3 GNM
4 Notable case
5 Other Victims
6 Antisemitism
7 Latest developments
8 See also
9 References
10 Works by Ryke Geerd Hamer
11 External links

BiographyRyke Geerd Hamer
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Germanic New Medicine developer


Ryke Geerd Hamer, M.D. was born in Duesseldorf-Mettmann (Germany) in 1935. He received his high school diploma at age 18 and started medical and theological studies in Tuebingen, where he met Sigrid Oldenburg, a medical student who later became his wife.

At age 20, he passed the preliminary examination in medicine, married a year later, and completed his theological examinations at 22. A daughter was born to the young family and a son, Dirk, who would later play a large role in their lives. In April 1962 Hamer passed his medical state examination in Marburg and he was granted a professional license as a doctor of medicine in 1963. According to Hamer himself, there followed a number of years at the University Clinics of Tuebingen and Heidelberg. In 1972, Hamer completed his specialization in internal medicine. He also worked in several practices with his wife Dr. Sigrid Hamer. He patented several inventions, examples of which are the electric battery-operating Hamer-scalpel for plastic surgery, a special electric bone saw, a massage table that automatically adjusts to the contours of the body, and a device for transcutaneous serum diagnosis. The Hamers were a normal family with four children (two girls and two boys), until 1978 when his son Dirk was killed (see below).

The loss of his son led Hamer to develop his "Germanic New Medicine" (GNM) which led to legal complications. Hamer's license to practice medicine was revoked by a court judgment in Germany in 1986 that was reconfirmed in 2003. As he continued to treat patients, Hamer was under investigation several times on allegations of malpractice, leading to the death of patients (case file number 34 Js 85/86 - 34 Js 178/95 - 34 Js 221/96 StA Cologne). From September 2004 to February 2006, after being 12 months in jail in Germany from 1997 to 1998, he served a prison term in Prison Fleury Merogis / France on counts of fraud and illegal practicing. He lived in exile in Spain until March 2007, when he allegedly left Spain.
Dirk Hamer's death

The violent death of his son, Dirk Hamer (born 1959), was a key event in the development of the theories of Hamer. On August 8, 1978 his son was shot in his sleep on a yacht off Cavallo, an island of Corsica, by Vittorio Emanuele, the Italian pretender. After a protracted medical course involving 19 operations, leg amputation, and over 300 transfusions, Dirk Hamer died on December 7, 1978. On August 18, 1991 the Paris Assize Court did not find Vittorio Emanuele guilty of homicide; with a highly controversial decision, he was only convicted of the illegal possession of a rifle.[1] Two months after his son's death, Hamer self detected a testicular cancer and breast cancer in his wife, he interpreted these findings as a biologic response to the loss (“biologischer Konfliktschock” (translation: "biological conflict shock")), and proceeded to develop a system termed at first the "New Medicine" and currently the "Germanic New Medicine" to explain cancer and all kinds of illnesses as consequences of biological conflicts.

When incarcerated in June 2006 on charges of corruption, Vittorio Emanuele was recorded admitting that in reference to the death of Dirk Hamer that "I was in the wrong, [...] but I must say I fooled them [the French judges]",[2]
GNM

Basically, according to Hamer, any disease, most notably cancer, is not dangerous in itself, but merely a symptom of a biological conflict situation. A so called Dirk-Hamer-Syndrome stands at the beginning of this process and as a mental shock (i.e. fatal injury of his son) affects psyche, brain, and an organ related to the type of shock.

Hamer claims that the effect on the brain can be demonstrated by brain CT scans where a specific focal alteration (Hamer's focus, or "Hamerscher Herd") is apparent. The peripheral organ allegedly responds with "cancer". According to Hamer, this conflict needs to be resolved in order for the disease to be cured. Traditional treatments are not considered as having any primary value but as being too dangerous.

These "Hamer's focus" in brain CT scans have been identified by experts in radiology to be ring artefacts.[3]

However Siemens Corporation explains in an article, which image formations are not artefacts and but indeed organic formations. [2] According to this document, Hamer's focus show all the qualities to be an organic formation[3].

Despite all claims of Hamer's followers, there is not a single documented case of successful "Germanic New Medicine" treatment.[4]

Hamer also argues that conventional medical research is often in the interest of pharmaceutical companies, preventing accurate investigation in the causes and treatment of diseases, and ignores the role of the mind in the genesis of the disease. The Trnava University has officially confirmed on September 11, 1998 Hamer's theories but no other has tried officially to confirms it. However Hamer insists that his system is verifiable, and his proponents indicate that the medical establishment is failing to respond.

And there are more than 160 dead victims by now...

Notable case

Hamer became known mainly through his association with the Olivia Pilhar cancer case in 1995. Olivia, then aged six, suffered from Wilms' tumor. Her parents, convinced supporters of Hamer, withheld conventional medical therapy from their child Olivia. The Austrian authorities finally removed their rights of care and control, and the parents fled from Austria to Spain with the child. There, Hamer unsuccessfully treated the child using his method. The tumor continued to grow.

After negotiations including the intervention of the Austrian president, the parents were persuaded to return with the condition of no repression. By then, Olivia's tumor weighed several kilograms. The child was finally given emergency medical treatment after a court order against the parents' wishes and is still alive in 2007. Her parents received an eight-month suspended jail sentence in Austria.

The parents still support Hamer's method and have their own web site which explains the matter from their perspective.[5]

Other Victims

Christina Connell, a musician in Carthage, Missouri, USA, died on March 13, 2006. She had had breast cancer for about 20 years. But then she had chosen to follow Hamer's teachings of a stress-free life in lieu of her oncologist's suggested regimen of chemotherapy. She had been told by her physicians that her particular type of cancer was extremely sensitive to chemotherapy as indeed it had proved to be during previous bouts. After she realized (Do not dare to forge this statement!) that Hamer led her on the wrong way, the tumors had already grown too much and she was too weak - and died of complications resulting from liver cancer. Obituary for Christina Connell

There are a number of pages in German with stories of other patients of Hamer's who died of their cancers, including Michaela Jakubczyk Eckert, who died of breast cancer on November 12th, 2005, after being persuaded by Hamer to discontinue traditional cancer treatment. The obituary in English: We mourn for Michaela

According to the latest data the number of reported Hamer's victims exceeds 150.[6] Additionally, 11 dead victims were found by now in Italy, according to latest news from there.

One of the murderous lies of Hamer and his scene is, that he never affirmed that he could prevent any death caused by cancer, but that he stated that one can only cure cancer oneself by resolving the specific contents of the conflict. With this lie Hamer and his scene try to wash the blood off their hands, with the meanest of all lies: that it is the victim's own fault if he dies. Interviews during demonstrations and forum posts explicity contain these words, nearly word for word. The hardness and harshness of the Hamer scene against the dead victims are cruel.

The basic psychopathic patterns behind these driving "ideas" are recognized to exist, but so far are not analyzed in detail. Depending on the different cultures in different countries the pools of possible victims vary in their states of mind. In Italy paranoia of state conspiracy is a major influential force, in Germany it is the will to control the own life and body.

Antisemitism

The conflict between supporters and opponents of Hamer's pretensions, at the base of which what "biological laws" lays, has become more acrimonious over the years, with Hamer being accused of using anti-semitic terminology and claiming that a genocidal Jewish conspiracy wants him silenced.

Hamer claims that Jews cure themselves with the Germanic New Medicine and prevent non-Jews from using it. He says the doctors of official medicine are guilty of the "most hideous crime in the whole history of mankind".

Hamer claims that he is neither an antisemite nor a racist nor a religious fanatist but a subject to denouncing.

Hamer claims that he "he wants to help anyone, no matter who is it" and "crime is a crime no matter it is done by Chinese, Esquimaus, or in this case, Jews.[7]

In his madness Hamer attacks persons by giving them "Jewish" names and titles, like "rabbi". In his letters concerning his will to get back his approbation this can be seen clearly.

Latest developments

According to latest news published by Helmut Pilhar, his commercial base in Austria, and Antje Scherret, his German commercial phone service operator (both of which are responsible[citation needed] for several dead during the recent years) on march, 10th, 2007, Hamer left Spain. Hamer claims to fear German law enforcement would soon be knocking on his door because of upcoming law suits caused by his antisemitic hatred seeding. Hamer claims to have applied for political asylum in a country he does not name.

Unofficial voices of investigators guess that Italian families and relatives of his victims are after him.

Added november, 1st., 2007:

According to two independent sources Hamer now is in Norway. This is a severe cut to the tourism of his followers to him. It destroys his financial base and it keeps him far off from the main areas of influence. Hamer definitely is out.

In autumn 2006 some of his former followers began a conspiracy and took over the regime in august 2007 by starting a new association in Germany.

The last foothold for Hamer is Helmut Pilhar in Austria, who is considered to fall in foreseeable time.

Hamer's followers put Hamer off because of his antisemitic hatred seeding and his refusal to help them. But they still believe in Hamer's New Medicine, not realizing that Hamer's madness is the key to all his deeds.
See also
Meta-MedicineR, another group that supports and applies Hamer's theories, including his so called "biological laws". [4]. And even create new organizations with the support of famous actors [5]. Hamer himself describes the meta-medicine "meta-bandits". [8]
Christian Science, a religious sect originating in the United States which believes disease is a sign of a spiritual problem, and has been similarly accused of causing deaths by withholding traditional medical treatment.

References
^ Summary of trial proceedings
^ [http://www.repubblica.it/2006/09/sezioni/cronaca/vittorio-emanuele/vittorio-emanuele/vittorio-emanuele.html Vittorio Emanuele, cimici in cella "Ho fregato i giudici francesi"]
^ Statement by prof. Maximilian Reiser, president of German radiologist association "Deutsche Roentgengesellschaft" January 22, 2007 in: [1]
^ Critical Analysis
^ Pilhar website
^ List of reported patients who died (German)
^ [Italian Hamer's Official biography, with his letters on the Jewish conspiracy]
^ Prof. W.Klosterhalfen university of Düsseldorf/Germany
Works by Ryke Geerd Hamer
Hamer, Dr Ryke Geerd Summary of the New Medicine (2000, Amici di Dirk) ISBN 84-930091-9-9
Hamer, Dr Ryke Geerd Einer gegen alle ( 2005, Amici di Dirk) ISBN 84-96127-15-X
Hamer, Dr.Ryke Geerd 'Krebs und alle sog. Krankheiten' (2004, Amici di Dirk) ISBN 84-96127-12-5
External links
Official English language site
Searchlightmagazine and Hamer
The AGPF about Hamer, Wellknown German Site
'Wehrhafte Medizin!' One of the large international sites about charlatanism and quackery. Some of the following links and pages are taken from there.
http://www.todessekte.de This site is dedicated to Hamer and the Hamer scene, including the successors like meta-medicine, ALBA, and other groups and individuals who apply or support the deadly "New Medicine" no matter under which disguise.
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~italix This large site in Italian is the key to new activities of the media and the law enforcement agencies against the Hamer scene in Italy. .
'Kontraste', Beitrag vom 10.11.2005 Falsche Versprechen - die toedliche Gefahr der 'Germanischen Neuen Medizin'
Report Mainz vom 18.November 2002 Krebs heilen durch Nichtstun? Die gefaehrlichen Thesen der 'Neuen Medizin'


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Da ist nicht bloß ein Fall erwähnt, sondern auch andere. Bei einem so mörderischen System mit hunderten von Toten eigentlich selbstverständlich. Doch diese Toten und andere Fakten mißfallen. Sie mißfallen den Hamer-Anhängern, aber auch einigen Leuten, die ohne jedes Sachwissen herumpfuschen, weil es ihnen so gefällt, und weil sie ja die Größten sind...

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 10:20:56 PM »

Hier war ein "Experte"  bei der Arbeit:

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   *[[Christian Science]], a religious sect originating in the [[United States]] which believes disease is a sign of a spiritual problem, and has been similarly accused of causing deaths by withholding traditional medical treatment.      *[[Christian Science]], a religious sect originating in the [[United States]] which believes disease is a sign of a spiritual problem, and has been similarly accused of causing deaths by withholding traditional medical treatment.
   * [[Scientology]], a religious movement established in 1954, that recommends thorough psychotherapeutic measures that shall locate psychological traumas in order to avoid cataclysmic damage      * [[Scientology]], a religious movement established in 1954, that recommends thorough psychotherapeutic measures that shall locate psychological traumas in order to avoid cataclysmic damage

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Ryke Geerd Hamer (born May 17, 1935) is a barred German physician who is the originator of the highly controversial Germanic New Medicine, also formerly known as German New Medicine and New Medicine, that criticizes mainstream medicine, and promises a 98% chance of healing for cancer. The approach has been described as "dangerous, especially as it lulls the patients into a false sense of security so that they are deprived of other effective treatments, "[1]Contents [hide]
1 Biography
2 Dirk Hamer's death
3 GNM
4 Notable case
5 Antisemitism
6 Criticism
7 Works by Ryke Geerd Hamer
8 See also
9 References
10 External links

Biography

Ryke Geerd Hamer was born in Düsseldorf-Mettmann (Germany) in 1935. He received his high school diploma at age 18 and started medical and theological studies in Tübingen, where he met Sigrid Oldenburg, a medical student who later became his wife. At age 20, he passed the preliminary examination in medicine, married a year later, and completed his theological examinations at 22. A daughter was born to the young family and a son, Dirk. In April 1962 Hamer passed his medical state examination in Marburg and he was granted a professional license as a doctor of medicine in 1963. According to Hamer himself, there followed a number of years at the University Clinics of Tübingen and Heidelberg. In 1972, Hamer completed his specialization in internal medicine. He also worked in several practices with his wife. He patented several inventions.

In 1978 the loss of his son Dirk led Hamer to develop his "Germanic New Medicine" (GNM) which led to legal complications. Hamer's license to practice medicine was revoked in 1986 by a court judgment in Germany and this reconfirmed in 2003. As he continued to treat patients, Hamer was investigated several times on allegations of malpractice and the death of patients.[2] He was jailed for 12 months in Germany from 1997 to 1998, and served a prison term from September 2004 to February 2006 in Fleury Merogis, France on counts of fraud and illegal practicing. He subsequently lived in exile in Spain until March 2007, when he allegedly left Spain.
Dirk Hamer's death

The violent death of his son, Dirk Hamer (born 1959), was a key event in the development of the theories of Hamer. On August 8, 1978 his son was shot while he slept on a yacht off Cavallo by Vittorio Emanuele. After a protracted medical course Dirk Hamer died on December 7, 1978. On August 18, 1991 the Paris Assize Court did not find Vittorio Emanuele guilty of homicide; with a highly controversial decision, he was only convicted of the illegal possession of a rifle.[3]

When incarcerated in June 2006 on charges of corruption, Vittorio Emanuele was recorded admitting that in reference to the death of Dirk Hamer that "I was in the wrong, [...] but I must say I fooled them [the French judges]",[4]

Two months after his son's death, Hamer detected in himself a testicular cancer, which could be cured conventionally.
GNM

Sometime after the death of his son Dirk Hamer began to believe, that any disease, most notably cancer, is not dangerous in itself, but merely a biological symptom of a psychological conflict situation. Hamer claims that the effect on the brain can be demonstrated by brain CT scans where a specific focal alteration is apparent and that the conflict-related organ responds with “cancer”. According to Hamer this conflict needs to be resolved in order for the disease to be cured. Traditional treatments are not considered as having any primary value but as too dangerous.

Hamer also argues that conventional medical research is not falsifiable and often in the interest of pharmaceutical companies, preventing accurate investigation in the causes and treatment of diseases, and ignores the role of the mind in the genesis of the disease. Hamer claims the Trnava University and others have confirmed Hamer's theories. Hamer insists that his system is verifiable and complains that the medical establishment is failing to respond. Hamer agrees that in case of a severe conflict or wrongful application of his method GNM will not rescue the patient.[5][6]

These anomalies in brain CT scans have been identified by radiologists to be ring artifacts.[7] Applying Hamer's theories is punishable in some countries as malpractice in coincidence with fraud, because mainstream medicine does not acknowledge a single successful treatment.[1] Furthermore conventional medicine officials complain, that Hamer's theorems are not falsifiable, since they are often tautologies.
Notable case

Hamer became known mainly through his association with the Olivia Pilhar cancer case in 1995. Olivia, then aged six, suffered from Wilms' tumor. When Olivia and her parents were left alone on the oncology ward, which was lacking psychological support for relatives and patients, the parents withheld conventional medical therapy from their child Olivia and found Hamer to be a trustworthy alternative. The Austrian authorities finally removed their rights of care and control, and the parents fled from Austria to Spain with the child. There, Hamer unsuccessfully treated the child using his method. The tumor continued to grow.

After negotiations including the intervention of the Austrian president, the parents were persuaded to return with the condition of no repression. By then, Olivia's tumor weighed several kilograms. The child was finally given emergency medical treatment after a court order against the parents' wishes and is still alive in 2007. Her parents received an eight-month suspended jail sentence in Austria.

The parents still support Hamer's method and have their own web site which explains the matter from their perspective.[5]
Antisemitism

The conflict between supporters and opponents of Hamer's pretensions, at the base of which what "biological laws" lays, has become more acrimonious over the years, with Hamer being accused of using anti-semitic terminology and claiming that a genocidal Zionistic conspiracy wants him silenced. According to Hamer, Jews cure themselves with the Germanic New Medicine and prevent non-Jews from using it. He says the doctors of official medicine are guilty of the "most hideous crime in the whole history of mankind". However Hamer clearly explains that he is neither an antisemite nor a racist nor a religious fanatic, but a subject to denouncing. Hamer explains that he "he wants to help anyone, no matter who is it" and "crime is a crime no matter it is done by Chineses, Esquimaus, or in this case, Jews.[8]
Criticism

The Swiss Cancer League of Swiss Society for Oncology, Swiss Society for Medical Oncology and Swiss Institute for Applied Cancer Research observe that no case of a cancer cure has been published in medical literature nor any studies in specialised journals. Reports in his books "lack the additional data that are essential for medical assessment" and investigation presentations at medical conferences "are scientifically unconvincing".[1]
Works by Ryke Geerd Hamer
Dr Ryke Geerd Hamer (2000). Summary of the New Medicine. Amici di Dirk. ISBN 84-930091-9-9.
Dr Ryke Geerd Hamer (2005). Einer gegen alle. Amici di Dirk. ISBN 84-96127-15-X.
Dr Ryke Geerd Hamer (2004). Krebs und alle sog. Krankheiten. Amici di Dirk. ISBN 84-96127-12-5.
Dr Ryke Geerd Hamer (1998). Vermächtnis einer Neuen Medizin. Amici di Dirk. ISBN 978-3926755001.
See also
Meta-Medicine, another group that claims to have developed Hamer's theories, including his "biological laws". Hamer himself feels like they stole his concepts.[9]
Christian Science, a religious sect originating in the United States which believes disease is a sign of a spiritual problem, and has been similarly accused of causing deaths by withholding traditional medical treatment.
Scientology, a religious movement established in 1954, that recommends thorough psychotherapeutic measures that shall locate psychological traumas in order to avoid cataclysmic damage
References
^ a b c Swiss Study Group for Complementary and Alternative Methods in Cancer, SCAC (2001). "Hamer's «New Medicine»" (PDF). Swiss Cancer League.
^ case file number 34 Js 85/86 - 34 Js 178/95 - 34 Js 221/96 Public Prosecution Service Cologne
^ Summary of trial proceedings
^ "Vittorio Emanuele, cimici in cella "Ho fregato i giudici francesi"" (in Italian). la Repubblica. 9 September 2006.
^ a b "Helmut Pilhar website and seminars" (in German).
^ English Version of GNM
^ Statement by Prof. Maximilian Reiser, president of German radiologist association "Deutsche Röntgengesellschaft" January 22, 2007 (German)
^ "Hamer's Official biography, with his letters on an alleged Jewish conspiracy" (in Italian).
^ Prof. W.Klosterhalfen university of Düsseldorf/Germany
External links
Official English language site
Searchlightmagazine and Hamer
The AGPF about Hamer (german)
'Wehrhafte Medizin!' (german) One of the large international sites about charlatanism and quackery. Some of the following links and pages are taken from there.
biography of Hamer
'Kontraste', Beitrag vom 10.11.2005 Falsche Versprechen - die toedliche Gefahr der 'Germanischen Neuen Medizin' (german)
Report Mainz vom 18.November 2002 Krebs heilen durch Nichtstun? Die gefaehrlichen Thesen der 'Neuen Medizin' (german)
Film von 1984 Hamer mit Patienten
Verschiedene Filme/Vortrage different films)

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"WP cant tell how Meta-Medicine came to the same ideas..." Natürlich, wenn ein Experte das sagt, dann stimmt das auch. Aber leider hat dieser "Experte" keinen blassen Schimmer.

Tatsache: Rüdiger Dahlke selbst hat zugegeben, daß die Meta-Mediziner Hamers Ideen geklaut haben. Ich zitiere zur besseren Sichtbarkeit der Beweise aus

http://transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/index.php?topic=3723.0

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Rüdiger Dahlke, Mitglied einer Tarnorganisation der Raubkopierer, macht ein Geständnis des Diebstahls:
http://transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/index.php?topic=3713

Von allem Dahlkeschen Gesülze befreit, das Geständnis in Kurzform:

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Das Kernstück der Meta-Medizin aber ist die Theorie der Neuen
Medizin von Dr. Hamer,


[...]
Dem Autor des vorliegenden Buches, gebührt das Verdienst
diese Theorie von all dem ebenso hinderlichen wie überflüssigen
ideologischen Ballast befreit ... zu haben.

[...]
So könnte das vorliegende Buch endlich die Basis werden für eine
vorurteilsfreie Überprüfung dieses Ansatzes in der Praxis anhand
von unzähligen Krankengeschichten.

[...]
Der Radiologe, der seine Computertomogramme, MRIs und PETs lesen
kann ... könnte wieder eine Brücke zur Psychotherapeutin finden

[...]
den Inhalt ... in die Medizin ... bringen

[...]
Eine Leukämie oder ein Leberkoma als Teil der Regenerations- und
Reparaturphase ... akzeptieren,

[...]
der Medizin eine verbindliche Grundlage ... schaffen

[...]
Ruediger Dahlke
Feld am See,  Dezember 2005
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Oder, noch kürzer gefaßt, zur Methode der Raubkopierer:

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Mit anderen Worten: die antisemitische Hetze raus, den Rest behalten, und dann damit Geld machen.
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Als Fachmann weiß man das. Aber der große "Experte" bei Wikipedia weiß es besser. Und schon gehen Fakten über den Jordan, schon wird gebogen und gehobelt und gelättet. Die Wahrheit bleibt auf der Strecke. Aber man fühlt sich megagut und megawichtig dabei, yeah!!!

Wie wäre es denn, wenn sich die Schreiber bei der Wikipedia ihrer Fähigkeiten besser erinnerten? Hier ein Beispiel, und das habe ich nicht aus Zufall ausgewählt, wer bei der Wikipedia mitschreibt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Homer_Landskirty

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Hi!

I was born in the 1970s in F.Rep.GERM. Today I am disabled mentally, so that I am totally and permanently unable to work. I would like to help Wikipedia to comply to the truth as exactly as humanly possible. The homepage of a workgroup that is quite tightly related to my person, can be found here.
Because I have to celebrate at 24th March in every year again as long as I am alive, and because tuberculosis might be quite a threat to everybody, I would like to mention here, that at that same day World Health Organisation and other such organisations desire to have World Tuberculosis Day.


Brunsbüttel, 2006-11-22
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I dont want to be responsible for what I write or do or say... Take into account my mental disability, please. Any advice (especially legal and/or medical), I might give, is worth almost nothing due to a lack of license...
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Strafanzeige gegen Wikipedia: Nazis raus!
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2011, 09:19:26 PM »

Das ist eine Kopie aus dem Jahr 2007. Nicht daß das vergessen wird.


Strafanzeige gegen Wikipedia: Nazis raus!
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6. Dezember 2007 Katina Schubert

Nazis raus aus Wikipedia

Die stellvertretende Vorsitzende der Partei DIE LINKE, Katina Schubert,
stellte Strafanzeige gegen das Internetlexikon Wikipedia wegen der
Verwendung verfassungsfeindlicher Symbole.

Sie erklärt:
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Wikipedia ist das bekannteste Internet-Lexikon, und es lebt davon, dass
jede und jeder seinen Beitrag zur weltweiten Wissensenzyklopädie leisten
kann. Seine erfreulich offene Struktur macht "Wiki" leider auch zu einem
wenig kontrollierbaren Einfallstor für rechte und rechtsextreme
Ideologien.
Es kann und darf nicht sein, dass Einträge aus NS-Quellen zitieren und
weit über das, rechtlich geschützte, Maß an Aufklärung hinaus Materialien
und Kennzeichen verfassungsfeindlicher und verbotener Organisationen
Verwendung finden.
Meine Anzeige soll die Betreiber zwingen, bei Beibehaltung der offenen
Struktur, politische und ethische Standards einzuführen, die es Nazis
unmöglich machen, ihren braunen Müll als lexikalisch wertvolles Wissen
auszugeben und im Netz zu verbreiten.
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Quelle:
http://die-linke.de/presse/presseerklaerungen/detail/zurueck/aktuell/artikel/nazis-raus-aus-wikipedia/

Ganz meine Meinung!

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Wikipedia beruht auf den Binnenkonsensmechanismen von Straßengangs
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 09:27:57 PM »

Auch dies schrieb ich bereits 2007.

Re: Wiki vs. Brockhaus
Antwort #3 - 07. Dezember 2007 um 10:12
 
>Haben wir denn nicht schon genug staatliche Infiltration der
>Freiheit durch die "Terrorbekämpfung" der letzten Jahre?

Wikipedia hat eine besondere Geisteskrankheit: den "neutral point of view" (NPOV). Dahinter kann sich übelster Sadismus und Terrorismus bequem verbergen. Mörder dürfen nicht Mörder genannt werden, weil dieser Begriff "polemisch" und nicht "neutral" ist. DAS ist Wikipedia!


>Müssen wir jede Form von Selbstregulation durch staatliche
>Bevormundung unterminieren?

Wenn die "Selbstregulation" durch Denunziatoren, Fälscher und amerikanische Anwälte stattfindet, die - entgegen den der Öffentlichkeit bekannten Regeln - zum Beispiel nach Belieben löschen OHNE Spuren zu hinterlassen, dann ist die "Selbstregulation" eine Farce.


>Finden Sie es richtig, wenn man sofort zum Anwalt rennt, statt erst
>einmal mit denen zu sprechen, denen man etwas vorwirft?

Wikipedia kennt die Kritik und sabotiert sie.

Wikipedia kann GRUNDSÄTZLICH nicht funktionieren, weil schon die Grundlagen von Wikipedia geisteskrank sind.

Wikipedia beruht auf den Binnenkonsensmechanismen von Straßengangs und dem Kriegshandwerk der Political Correctness.

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Re: Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2016, 02:15:30 PM »

Die "Frankfurter Rundschau" mal wieder. Jessas, nee. Mit einem Autor, der sich versteckt:

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In der Titelung heißt er "Lars Lehmann". Das ist dann wohl der John Doe der Redaktion. Ist auch besser so, weil man bei der Wikipedia nie weiß, was da im Hintergrund herumlungert.

Aber das nur nebenbei. Pikant ist, wen der Artikel zitiert bzw. erwähnt: die Kritikasta von der Viadrina. Jessas, nee!


http://www.fr-online.de/medien/wikipedia--deine-mitarbeit-ist-unerwuenscht-,1473342,34493486,view,asFirstTeaser.html

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In dem Beitrag „Auf den Hund gekommen“ (FR vom 11. April) hat der Politologe Peter Grottian klar die Mängel großer Bewegungen à la Greenpeace, Campact und Attac benannt, vor allem deren fehlende Transparenz. Da wäre auch Wikipedia zu erwähnen; hier sind die Defizite öffentlich noch weniger bekannt. Wer dort nicht nur einzelne Artikel liest, sondern nach nur einem Klick auch die Versionsgeschichten und Diskussionen, bemerkt dies: Da geht es oft gar nicht enzyklopädisch und gesittet zu, sondern sehr rau und ruppig, unkollegial, aggressiv, destruktiv und beleidigend. Fachkompetenz spielt dabei kaum eine Rolle. Über Wikipedias Pro und Contra informiert unter de.wiki-watch.de ein interdisziplinär angelegtes Forum an der Europa-Universität Frankfurt (Oder). Tätig ist hier der Medienrechtler Johannes Weberling mit einem engagierten Stab, der sich um mehr Transparenz bemüht. Über Mangel an Arbeit und kritischen Beiträgen kann er nicht klagen.
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Ausgerechnet Hogwarts an der Oder als Platz organisierter Forschung. Über Wikipedia. Dracula in der Blutbank. Genau.

Liebe Frank'nFurter Rundsch'au, war Journalismus früher nicht mal sowas mit Schlußredaktion und Recherche?

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Re: Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2017, 07:48:35 AM »

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Re: Wikipedia = Strassenkrieg der PR-Mafia und Faelscherbanden
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2017, 09:37:31 PM »

InRuR kannte ich noch nicht. Mit Wikipedia haben die so ihre Erfahrungen.  :P

http://inrur.net/wiki/Einführung_zum_InRuR_wiki

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Einführung zum InRuR wiki
Aus Inrur

INRUR Alleinstellungsmerkmal
Aufbau/Struktur der einzelnen Lemmata (Gebrauchsanweisung)
WORK IN PROGRESS

InRuR ist zum Mitdenken also NIX für Denkfaule !

InRuR ist für wissbegierige, aufgeschlossene, aufmerksame, reflektierte LeserInnen,
also nicht für oberflächliche FlachdenkerInnen,
die zwar `ne entschiedene Meinung haben, aber kaum Wissen

InRuR nutzt die Wiki-Software MediaWiki,
da ein wiki die beste Möglichkeit ist,
komplexe Zusammenhänge möglichst adäquat wiederzugeben
das InRuR wiki ist in erster Linie eine Materialsammlung.
Da schon zu allen möglichen Themen Unmengen von Informationen vorhanden sind,
jedoch Vielen die Zeit, Energie, Ruhe, das Wissen, die Medienkompetenz fehlt,
bietet InRuR den Service, das vorhandene Material,
soweit wie möglich übersichtlich wiederzugeben
InRuR geht es nicht um schnellen Konsumismus,
oberflächliche Information...
sondern um WISSEN !
also INFORMATION + KONTEXT
- somit um HINTERGRÜNDE & ZUSAMMENHÄNGE !
um fundierte AUFKLÄRUNG, möglichst mit Orginalquellen
um ERNSTHAFTIGKEIT, KONSEQUENZ, NACHHALTIGKEIT,
ANALYSE & KRITIK, THEORIE & PRAXIS !

InRuR hat nicht den Anspruch das Rad neu zu erfinden

InRuR betrachtet die (in erster Linie deutschsprachige) wikipedia,
bei aller Kritik (siehe weitere Ausführungen),
als relevantes Informationsmedium
und nicht zu unterschätzende Definitionsmacht,
weshalb die deutschsprachige wikipedia von InRuR,
als ein wichtiger Bezugspunkt,
konkret als Ausgangsbasis und Kampfterrain betrachtet wird.

InRuR geht davon aus,
daß wenn in einem Lemma bspw steht "xyz in der deutschsprachigen wikipedia",
daß so viel Verstand vorhanden ist,
daß kapiert wird, daß die dann folgenden Sätze aus der aktuellen wikipedia Version stammen
und es nicht noch einer extra Kennzeichnung bedarf
NEUHEIT AB 24.6.2015:
zukünftig werden auch, wenn sinnvoll, die wikipedia Diskussionseiten zu den jeweiligen Lemmata angegeben
denn dort werden Konflikte um die jeweiligen Lemmata deutlich
und auch verschwiegene... Dokumente angegeben
InRuR besteht in erster Linie
aus Dokumenten von und zu Organisationen, Personen, Medien, Themenkomplexen...

InRuR richtet sich in erster Linie an Menschen, die ein ernsthaftes Interesse an den Themenkomplexen,
an fundierter kritischer Auseinandersetzung, an Nachhaltigkeit, an emanzipatorischer Kontinuität haben

InRuR verachtet oberflächliche, konsumistische Menschen,
die nur mit Fließtexten a la Der Spiegel, wikipedia... klar kommen
und zu blöd sind, in den InRuR Materialsammlungen, die Links anzuklicken,
um auf ihre gewohnten Fließtexte zu gelangen, auf die sie konditioniert sind :-)
bei InRuR kommt der Inhalt vor der Form, auch wenn uns bewußt ist, daß die Form Teil des Inhalts ist.
Die gesellschaftliche Dominanz von Design, Etikett, Label, Oberfläche, Outfit, Schein, Status, Style...
wird von uns abgelehnt und wo möglich bekämpft !
in der deutschsprachigen wikipedia werden Primärquellen:
blogs, wikis, Foren etc
als Quellen zumeist nicht akzeptiert
und sowohl von den Rechtsauslegern,
wie von am Dogma, der logischerweise unmöglichen "Neutralität"/"Objektivität" orientierten AktivistInnen
überwiegend rigeros gelöscht.
Akzeptiert wird durchweg verfälschende und verkürzende Sektundärliteratur. (Stille Post Prinzip)
Bevorzugt solche Quellen, die mit dem Begriff "wissenschaftlich" geadelt werden - Karl Theodor, Silvana, Vroni & Co lassen grüßen.
Wissenschaftsfetisch statt Wissenschaftskritik.
Wiedergabe der vorherrschenden Meinung...
Als Quellen bevorzugt werden ansonsten Artikel, von gesellschaftlich etablierten,
bürgerlich extrem rechtsoffenen Medien, wie Der Spiegel, Focus etc.
Diese gelten im wikipedia Sprech,
als "reputabel" und werden zumeist akzeptiert.
In härteren Auseinandersetzungen wird zumeist auf wissenschaftlichen Texten bestanden
und auch Spiegel und Focus als Quelle abgelehnt.
Ein Artikel zum Komplex Wissenschaftskritik gibt es in der deutschsprachigen wikipedia nicht !
twitter, facebook, youtube sind in der deutschsprachigen wikipedia generell unerwünscht,
es sei denn eine Sekundärquelle thematisiert Auseinandersetzung in und um diese Medien,
dann ist deren Existenz in der Gaga Paralellwelt wikipedia nicht mehr zu leugnen

InRuR steht für Aufgeschlossenheit, Interesse, Offenheit und ist gegen Autoritarismus, Dogmatismus
und Hierarchien im sozialen, gesellschaftlichen Kontext...
(die angebotenen Informationen hingegen sind hierarchisch strukturiert)
als Basis für die einzelnen Zusammenstellungen wird zumeist die bürgerlich dominierte
und in Teilen salonfaschistisch manipulierte wikipedia genommen,
da dort häufig schon viele wichtige Informationen vorhanden sind.
Viele der wikipedia Artikel spiegeln in weiten Teilen,
die staatstragende, deutschnationale, der Extremismus-, Totalitarismus- Doktrin verhaftenten,
am sog. "Verfassungsschutz" orientierte Sichtweise wieder.
Charakteristika der deutschsprachigen wikipedia, ist zudem die Manipulation und Unterschlagung von wichtigen Fakten.
Dazu kommen viele Lücken, viele Themenkomplexe die kaum, wenig oder fragwürdig dargestellt werden.
Die Pogrome von Hoyerswerda und Rostock werden mit dem Lemma "Ausschreitungen" [1], [2] verhamlost.
Entsprechend wird der Revanchismus des Wiedervereinigungs Begriff übergangen/ignoriert.
im Gegensatz dazu bietet InRuR Informationen über Hintergründe und Zusammenhänge,
die in der deutschsprachigen wikipedia unterschlagen, bzw manipuliert werden

InRuR hängt nicht dem verlogenen manipulativen Unsinn,
der in der wikipedia behaupteten Neutralität, Objektivität, Seriösität, Reputabilität an


bei InRuR sind die Kategorien nicht wie in der wikipedia unten klein "versteckt",
sondern an den Anfang der Einträge gestellt
- da das Wahrnehmen von Zusammenhängen entscheidender Faktor für eine fundierte Analyse sind
InRuR in logischerweise nicht perfekt, nicht frei von Fehlern,
es kann also manchmal auch zu falschen Einschätzungen kommen.
Außerdem verändern sich Menschen und wir können es nicht immer schaffen auf dem aktuellsten Stand zu sein.
Dadurch das wir in erster Linie möglichst mit Orginaldokumenten arbeiten, versuchen wir die Fehlerquote möglichst gering zu halten.

InRUR geht es um die Wiederspiegelung von komplexen Zusammenhängen, Hintergründen...
daher lehnt InRuR die übl"ichen systemstabilisierenden, allerorten vorgenommen Trennungen ab,
jedoch geht es InRuR nicht um verschwörungsideologische Konstruktion nicht vorhandener,
sondern um nachweißbare, überprüfbare, real existierende Zusammenhänge

InRuR ist parteiisch für Aufklärung und Emanzipation, gegen jegliche Form von Ausbeutung, Diskriminierung, Unterdrückung...
wobei die Diskriminierung und Unterdrückung von Diskriminierern und Unterdrückern in dem Kontext keinen Wiederspruch darstellt

InRuR geht es um Verantwortung !
entsprechend lehnt InRuR den alltäglichen Sprachmüll, der konkrete Verantwortung verschleiert ab.
Wenn beispielsweise AutorInnen nicht benannt werden, sondern es heißt: "Zeitung xyz hat geschrieben",
wenn Bomben einfach fallen und Menschen einfach sterben,
wenn sich "Paris, Berlin und Moskau zu 6 Augen Gesprächen treffen"
wenn bewußtes Handeln, selbst von "KritikerInnen",
mit der Blindheitsmetapher (unreflektiert) verharmlost und kaschiert werden.
Wenn inflationär mit Floskel wie "natürlich/selbstverständlich", verklärt statt erklärt und vermittelt wird.

InRuR lehnt verkürztes dichotomisches Denken ab, z.B. den Stumpfsinn "Links"(gut) "Rechts" (schlecht).
Auch im großen breiten "Linkem" Spektrum gibt es massig völkische, machistische,
antisemitische, homophobe... anti-emanzipatorische, autoritäre, reaktionäre Akteure, Positionierungen...

InRuR steht explizit gegen jeglichen Nationalismus, (Cooperative identity)
ebenso wie deren kleinteiligeren Pendents wie Regionalismus, Kiezfetisch, Identitätspolitiken

bei InRuR kommt das Individum vor dem Kollektiv, wobei das Kollektiv auch wichtig ist

InRuR ist gegen Verharmlosung und Externalisierung von gesellschaftsimanenten Diskriminierungen
("Rechtsaussen", "Rechter Rand", "Terror Trio", "Zwickauer Zelle"...)

InRuR lehnt jeglichen Irrationalismus ab und ist für emanzipatorische
und gegen reaktionäre (Michael Schmidt Salomon/ GBS) Religionskritik

InRuR ist aktiv gegen den weit verbreiteten Hang zur Pathologisierung (Beispiel Breivik...)

InRuR ist aktiv gegen die Tradition der Verharmlosung

InRuR ist aktiv gegen die Schuld- und Verantworungs- Umkehr

InRuR ist aktiv gegen Rassistisch, völkisch, nationalistisch, klerikalfaschistische Islam/-ismus Dramatisierer
ebenso wie gegen Islam/-ismus Versteher/Verharmloser

InRUR ist aktiv gegen paternalistischen, exotistischen, positiv-rassistischen Antirassismus

InRuR lehnt den bürgerlich reaktionären Arbeits-Fetisch, der bis zur Linkspartei reicht, ab

InRuR lehnt den unreflektierten Freiheits-Fetisch, der bis in das anarchistische Spektrum reicht ab
ein Bezugspunkt ist für InRuR das dialektische Verhältnis zwischen Gerechtigkeit und Freiheit
Zitat:
05.01.1970 WAS WIR 'SINN' NENNEN, WIRD VERSCHWINDEN SPIEGEL-Gespräch mit dem Philosophen Max Horkheimer
Marx ist nicht darauf eingegangen, daß Gerechtigkeit und Freiheit dialektische Begriffe sind.
Je mehr Gerechtigkeit, desto weniger Freiheit; je mehr Freiheit, desto weniger Gerechtigkeit.
Freiheit. Gleichheit, Brüderlichkeit -- wunderbar!
Aber wenn Sie die Gleichheit erhalten wollen, dann müssen Sie die Freiheit einschränken,
und wenn Sie den Menschen die Freiheit lassen wollen, dann gibt es keine Gleichheit.
„Der Paß ist der edelste Teil von einem Menschen.
Er kommt auch nicht auf so einfache Weise zustand wie ein Mensch.
Ein Mensch kann überall zustandkommen, auf die leichtsinnigste Art und ohne gescheiten Grund, aber ein Paß niemals.
Dafür wird er auch anerkannt, wenn er gut ist, während ein Mensch noch so gut sein kann und doch nicht anerkannt wird."
16.08.1961 BRECHT
Werkstattbühne Würzburg e.V. - Brecht - Archiv
"Gesellschaftliche Veränderung fängt immer mit Außenseitern an,
die spüren, was notwendig ist.“ Robert Jungk (1913-94)
wobei es inrur nicht nur um "Spüren" geht
sondern um möglichst fundierte Analyse, Kritik, Reflexion, Aufklärung,...
Wahrnehmung von Hintergründen und Zusammenhängen, Kontexten,
möglichst umfassende adäquadte Erfassung der Komplexität der analysierten Bereiche
- bei möglichst ausgeprägter Vermeidung, der weitverbreiteten Über- und Untertreibung
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"InRuR hängt nicht dem verlogenen manipulativen Unsinn,
der in der wikipedia behaupteten Neutralität, Objektivität, Seriösität, Reputabilität an"


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